Episode Transcript

Strengthen Your Skills Muscles with Roxana Radulescu

EPISODE 42

[INTRODUCTION]

[00:00:07] BS: Hi. Welcome to Love Your Enthusiasm, a podcast that is all about empowering you to make space for your greatest passion. I’m Britt Skrabanek. Today’s guest is the Founder of All Personal, Roxana Radulescu.

In this episode, Roxana discusses her enthusiasm for learning and personal superpowers. Roxanna was super shy as a kid and became a TEDx speaker as an adult, so it is very interesting to hear about the way she developed these skills. Roxana believes that personal skills are just like muscles. This was a concept I had never considered, but it made a ton of sense to me.

Overall, many gems you will take away from this episode to help you harness your own superpowers. Transcripts for all past, present, and future episodes are located on the website if you need those. You can find them at the bottom of the show notes, or go to the transcripts menu at the top of the website.

Roxana has a beautiful energy and I was literally smiling the whole time we recorded this conversation. Have a wonderful time with Roxana.

[INTERVIEW]

[00:01:31] BS: Roxana, welcome to the show.

[00:01:33] RR: Thanks for having me, Britt. I’m enthusiastic about this show.

[00:01:37] BS: Yes. I love your enthusiasm.

[00:01:41] RR: Right. It’s so good to be here.

[00:01:44] BS: It’s great to have you. You are actually my second Romanian on the show.

[00:01:52] RR: Wow. Okay.

[00:01:53] BS: Yes. Back in Episode 14, I had Marina Sofia, which is her pen name. I will not say what her real name is. If you heard her real name, it sounds very Romanian. She was on the show last year. She’s really cool. She’s an indie publisher. She actually helps authors who are in lesser represented areas of the world, such as Romanian authors, get published. That’s her jam. She’s great. Known her for a long time. You are not my first Romanian. You’re my second Romanian on the show, which is pretty cool.

[00:02:30] RR: Yeah, it is pretty cool. That’s good to know. There’s a lot of us in the world.

[00:02:37] BS: You were born and raised in Romania, right?

[00:02:39] RR: Yeah, yeah.

[00:02:41] BS: If you don’t mind me asking you, how did you end up in Canada later in life? What was that journey like?

[00:02:51] RR: Well, that was a long journey just to get here. Basically, we wanted to move in a country where our values were closer – the values of the country were closer to the values that we were living up to. We tried making it in Romania and it didn’t work. I don’t know if, because I’m the second Romanian on the show, but then maybe people are – many people on your show know a little bit about Romania. It used to be a communist country. Actually, in 1989, communism fell. Then we had a democracy in Romania, but it takes a long time for one culture to become a different culture. Moving from communism to democracy, that is a long journey.

My husband and I, and we also have two kids who are now teenagers. We felt at some point that we wanted to go somewhere else, where we would find the values, which are really respect for your neighbors, respect for people, respect for the environment, for the planet in general, good education, and that kind of community where you feel supported, as opposed to the community that is more judgmental. In 2012, we decided to come to Canada. It took about four years to get approved as permanent residents. Then we moved in 2017 in March.

[00:04:39] BS: Have you been back to Romania since you moved to Canada?

[00:04:44] RR: Yes. We actually went back in 2019, for it was our first holiday in Romania as people who were living in another country. I mean, from 2017 to 2019 there wasn’t much of a difference. It was great that we could see the people that we were missing and visit some of the places that we were missing as well.

[00:05:12] BS: Yeah. It’s a part of the world that a lot of people don’t know about. When Marina was on the show, she talked about growing up there and really how books were her friends. Because she was just so isolated and really couldn’t talk and connect with people, the way that so many of us take for granted our childhoods, that were whether in the – depending on where you’re from, of course. It’s just a very different upbringing and a lot of people don’t know about it.

Thank you for sharing your story a little bit, because I think it’s important for people to make sure that they’re not taking for granted the lives that they have because it’s not the same everywhere and for everyone.

[00:05:58] RR: Yeah, absolutely. I talk about that a lot. I think, especially that trust; that’s one thing that had to suffer a lot during communism because you couldn’t really trust anyone around you because people would just tell on each other. They would. Then, a lot of people got arrested, because someone in their family or some of their friends, or neighbors were saying some stuff about them. That had a lot to suffer. Obviously, how are you going to build any meaningful and healthy relationships without trust?

[00:06:35] BS: Yeah. That must have been really tough for you and a long journey to where you are now. Yeah. I want to talk about your enthusiasm because I’m sure that this whole upbringing and your different perspective turned into the enthusiasm that you have today. Let’s talk about that. It’s about learning and personal superpowers. What are they and how can we harness this power, in your opinion?

[00:07:05] RR: Oh, well. I’m a learning nerd. I come from a background of learning and development. I used to work in corporate learning and development for about 15 years. I love learning. Because of that and because I’m a learning nerd, I do have a favorite quote on learning, which is, “Learning is movement from moment to moment.” When I first read that, it was, “Oh, yeah. Absolutely.” Because every moment of our life, we learn something. Or if we don’t learn something, we learn about something, or we unlearn, or we relearn. It has a lot to do with that process of learning and mastering the skills.

Why I called them superpowers is because I do believe in human potential and in human talent. I do believe that we are born with a set of superpowers that we have individually. Because we have them and we use them a lot and we like them, they just seem so natural to us, and so normal to us. If you think about any talent that you have or anything that you’re doing that you think is easy for you to do, it comes easy for you to do it. That’s one of your superpowers.

[00:08:43] BS: We all have them. I think that people don’t recognize their superpowers, or they think that it’s supposed to be something else. I’ve had this happen with meeting people who are in awe that I’m able to write, that I’m a writer, and that I can create. They say I’m not a creative person. They seem to just end it there as if they don’t have any superpowers, because they can’t write, or they can’t dance, or whatever. I’m always like, “Well, surely you have some other superpowers,” but maybe they’re just more focused on what they want their superpowers to be. It’s sad when I have those conversations, and I try to be as encouraging as possible, but sometimes we get really stuck with these images of what we think we should be doing or creating, even though that’s not our strength.

[00:09:33] RR: Exactly. I love that you said that. First of all, creativity is not just about artistic stuff. I mean, yes, artistic means creative. Also, creativity comes in all shapes and forms. I mean, it has to do with any creative thinking that helps you do something maybe better, or more efficiently, or more productively, or whatever it is. It can be. I think in 2020, we’ve seen a lot of displays of creativity that have nothing to do necessarily with artistic kinds of creativity.

Even if you think about how the whole world where that was possible, starting to work from home; that took a lot of creativity for people to come up with solutions around how can we still work together, although we can’t go to the office anymore, or maybe we don’t have access to the same spaces, the same systems anymore? Let’s invent. Let’s come up with something different that we can use. That’s creativity.

I think, let’s not minimize the potential here. Also, what happens is, whenever we do something that comes easy to us, we take it for granted. We don’t think that’s the superpower. We think that’s something that everybody can do. It’s not always the case. I mean, maybe everybody can do it, but that doesn’t mean it comes easy for everyone to do it.

Again, think about what’s easy for you to do and you feel good about doing and think about, maybe not taking it for granted anymore, but rather, appreciate it and use it and even build that skill muscle even more. Because what happens with our talents and with this potential that we have, when we have something that we’re good at, we might be taking it for granted, and we might just leave it at that level because we’re not focused on what we already have. We’re focused on developing something that we think we should have. As I like to tell people is don’t shoot yourself and don’t shoot other people either. Don’t shoot people.

[00:12:06] BS: Yup. Good advice. I like it. I stand by that as well. No, it’s so true. Thank you for reiterating the fact that creativity does not have to equal artistry, and that you can get creative by just simply adapting to the times, which was no easy task for anybody over the last year. Also, business is another place where you have to be creative constantly if you’re running a business. That really shed some light on that world for me, before I was running my own business. I always thought, “Oh, business is boring and business is –” I just had all of these other ideas of what it was. I mean, you really have to think on your feet and be creative and adapt and flow with the challenges.

[00:13:00] RR: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, think about it. All solutions come from creativity, really. They’re not in a book. You don’t get them. You don’t find everything on Google, really, if look this up. You’re not going to find everything there. I mean, most of the time, maybe 70%, 80% of the time, all the solutions that we come up with come through creativity and innovation. That’s why they’re big right now. I think they’re going to get bigger in terms of how can we develop these skills more and how can we work with them more?

[00:13:44] BS: I know that you love to learn, and you talked about that nerdiness. I don’t know if this is your downtime ritual. I know people who love to learn in their downtime, it might be something else. If you could talk a little bit about what your downtime rituals are and why downtime is necessary for you.

[00:14:07] RR: Well, I think downtime is necessary for anyone who works, or who wants to be, especially a high performer. I talk about that a lot. I like to talk about people who are high-performers, think about themselves as high-performing athletes. Thinking about athletes, they do have their downtime as well, because hey, you’re not going to go and participate in the Olympic Games a 100% of the time. You’re not going to compete at high levels a 100% of the time. Most of the time, you’re going to get yourself prepared and ready to compete as an athlete.

Taking that example in our own lives, then we do need to get ourselves ready to perform. Part of that preparation is also downtime. We do need our recharge and recovery time so that we’re able to perform. Now, especially with everybody working from home, or people who are entrepreneurs, or business owners, again, they’re at home. What tends to happen is you sit down at your desk a long time every day. Sometimes you just forget to just get up and do something else. That is not sustainable on a long-term.

What I like to do, first of all, I book time in my calendar. I have my yoga, or exercise time in the morning. That’s my downtime that has some activity in it. I also love, definitely read, or watch TED Talks. That’s one of my things. I also like to meditate and just really feel that I’m not thinking about anything else. That piece of either meditation, or book, or reading, or whatever it is that I’m doing right then. That helps me take my mind off things and really focus and refocus on the stuff that I’m watching, or I’m reading, or I’m doing.

That feels great because that helps me recharge. That also helps me see things from a different perspective. It just helps me unwind, just doing and thinking about something else. Then, I might come up with a solution that I was struggling to find. Suddenly, it’s now obvious. It’s now clear what I have to do, because I took this time to unwind.

[00:17:10] BS: Yeah, the recharging is so, so critical and increasingly difficult to do as people are working from home and running businesses from home. I mean, I’ve been doing this working from home for going on four years now. I have tried to help people as much as possible when they’ve come to me and been like, “How do you do this?” Because it’s really difficult to separate your relaxation, from your productivity, because it’s all jumbled together.

I loved what you said about you can’t be in the Olympics all the time. What those athletes for them to perform at an optimal level, they need some prep and they need to rest and recover. I liken it too, going into some dancer mode here, is that I think about you have to stretch and you have to strengthen constantly. Then you rehearse, and you rehearse and you rehearse and rehearse. You also have to recover. The performance is actually a very small piece of that. You have to do all of those other steps in order for your performance to be exceptional.

[00:18:27] RR: Yeah, exactly. Those need to be, again, consistent steps. I mean, you can’t do it just once in a while and expect that you’re going to perform optimally each time. No. You have to be consistent about it.

Come on, I work from home. My kids are at home now. They learn from home. My husband works from home as well. We’re all here. Still, whenever I have now, I have this podcast with you. They’re all here. They’re at home. Then I told them, “Look, I’m going to be in a podcast show, 11 to 12. Keep it quiet, people.”

[00:19:09] BS: Keep it down.

[00:19:11] RR: Keep it down. They know. I mean, now you have team family with you at home and you have to communicate. If it’s going to work for all of you, if you want it to work for all of you, you have to communicate. I’ve done my yoga in the morning. My husband was reading the news in the living room. I was doing the yoga at the same time. You have to be flexible about what’s possible and what works and embed that in your schedule. Also, do it consistently. That’s the key.

[00:19:50] BS: Roxana, let’s go back to your childhood in Romania for a moment. How did your childish curiosities eventually turned into the enthusiasm you love today?

[00:20:06] RR: First of all, I was a super shy kid growing up. I don’t know why I was shy, but I know I was. I had a lot of things to say in my mind. Then, I would never necessarily express them. For instance, I had very few friends in kindergarten and then in primary school. It was, for me growing up, I was mostly curious about, I don’t know, about human behavior, because I was noticing the other kids around me a lot.

I remember that my mom sent me onto a summer camp when I was about seven-years-old. When I got back from that camp, I kept talking and talking and talking about it to my parents. I remember that my mom said, “Oh, my God. I don’t think I’ve ever heard you talk so much in my life so far.” That came as a surprise. Then one of the things that I was, I don’t know, very curious about was how do these people who talk a lot and are so, I don’t know, fuzzy and good with people and friendly and who talk about everything. How do they do it? I was really curious about that. I was in awe, really, because I had – some of my friends were like that. That was one of the things that I was admiring at that point.

[00:21:55] BS: I love the way that you said that. Because I was the same kid. I mean, it’s like, how do they do it? I thought that all the way through high school. I was never a popular student. I was in awe looking at the popular kids. Just like, wow. I mean, I didn’t want to be them. It was an interesting study to see how they acted, how they held themselves, just their body posture, and just the things that they said and did in class too. They’re just so outspoken and always volunteering. I would have to get picked on to tell the answer. I totally get it.

[00:22:39] RR: Yeah, exactly. I mean, I didn’t know at that point that people are extroverts, or introverts, or –

[00:22:47] BS: Why don’t they go over that? They didn’t tell us about that in school here in the states either. That would have been useful to have a whole part of the curriculum that covered these different types of personalities and human psychology. Yeah.

[00:23:02] RR: Yeah, that would have been helpful. I mean, a lot of times I was thinking there must be something wrong with me because I can’t do it and they can. Again, I was wondering, how do they come up with all of the topics and everything that they talk about? Then don’t get me wrong, at home in my room, I have a lot of dolls in the room. I would teach them a lot of stuff. I was aligning all my dolls on the bed and I would be the teacher and talking to the dolls a lot. This was part of my play-learn if you want. I think that’s why I became such a learning nerd because to me learning was a lot of play; had a lot of play involved in it.

That’s why in workshops that I do now, I use a lot of play and fun stuff too because I like it and I know it helps. I was talking to my dolls. They would be listening to me, obviously, because they have no other option. To them, I could speak. I could speak about a lot of interesting stuff from my point of view. When I was outside playing with kids, not necessarily, but then I started to as I was growing up and starting to form my group of best friends, it became easier to do that.

Then in high school, it was a different level, because first of all, I was in a class where they were teaching French intensively. Also, a class where that had, I think, about 28 girls and two guys. You can imagine the dynamics in that classroom. You had to speak because everybody was. Everybody was saying something at some point.

That’s where I learned, hey, well actually, it’s fine to say things that, maybe to me, are not life and death topic. They’re not deep and philosophical. It’s just, “What are we doing after school? Do we go see watch a movie? Or what are we going to do?” That’s an okay discussion to have, and it’s okay for you to express your opinion about the movie that you want to go watch, or whatever else it is that you want to do. That’s when I realized, “Hey, actually, expressing your own ideas doesn’t have to be all about life’s existence and philosophical questions. It can also mean random discussions with friends and that’s okay.” You can absolutely say something that they don’t agree with and that’s fine too.

[00:26:02] BS: I love your elements of playfulness. I had stuffed animals that were my dolls. Those were my friends when I was younger, and maybe into high school, into college a little bit. My husband, when he first started, and we’ve been together for, oh gosh, 17 years now. When he met me, I was 21, there were still some stuffed animals around. He was pretty freaked out about it. Then as he got to know me and learned about what those stuffed animals represented; it made more sense to him.

I love your element of playfulness. I agree that it doesn’t have to be like life and death, serious discussions all the time. I’m assuming, I’m going to switch gears a little bit here and talk about – I’m assuming you’ve seen Susan Cain’s talk about the power of introverts and probably read her book, Quiet, which was just so life-changing for me. You being the super shy kid became a TEDx speaker yourself as an adult. I would love to know which superpowers did you need to work on to get here?

[00:27:17] RR: First of all, I had a lot of things to say. I wanted to say them. I think it’s pretty interesting that as a shy kid, I then ended up doing a lot of public speaking with my work because working and learning and development meant not only the background work, where you design the workshops and everything, but also delivering them and delivering them to – I used to travel to different countries, different cities and deliver workshops to people that I’d never met before. They didn’t know me. I didn’t know them. That was an interesting road, definitely for me to take.

I felt good about it because I knew I was providing value. For me, it was all about helping people discover new ways of doing things or new ways of looking at things that would help them. Knowing that, for me, was absolutely like a revelation, if you want. Doing it in a way that is easy to understand, that is also fun; combining that play with learning. That kind of, let’s have a good time. Let’s get to know each other and let’s also get to learn something that we’re going to be able to use. That’s what helped me.

Definitely, I had to learn how to do public speaking, how to present. I was fascinated by that. I was fascinated. Now looking back, I was growing up as a teenagers in the 90s. That’s where when the MTV was really, really big. It was a big thing.

[00:29:12] BS: Oh, yeah. MTV used to be awesome.

[00:29:15] RR: It did. I was looking at watching all of the VJs. I was checking their every move. I have this. I think I have this in me all the time. I just didn’t know I had it. It’s just the way I was teaching my dolls and then the way I was checking all of the moves and the posture and the way the VJs on MTV were speaking, and then the news people as well.

I actually went to radio TV school back in Romania, to learn how to present and how to edit and how to write the news and stuff like that. I would have been pretty great, to be honest. Then, I couldn’t get into the television world. That’s a whole different story. That actually helped me a lot, because I love, I love presenting. I love speaking. I know as an introvert, maybe that doesn’t come with the territory, but I think it does because I know a lot of introverted people who are so great public speakers and such great presenters and who want to get their message out in the world.

The difference is that they really when you feel that you can talk about something that you’re passionate about and spread that message for everybody to get and understand and resonate with, that for an introvert, that’s gold. That will fuel them. It won’t stop them from just talking about it over and over and over again. It’s not that you’re an introvert and can’t do it. It’s just, find ways in which you feel good about sending your message out in the world.

[00:31:05] BS: That’s so spot on. I was having that exact conversation with another guest on this podcast recently. Her name’s Bobbi Kahler in episode 34. She identified that for me when I was talking about how doing a speech in front of the class back in high school, or college was a nightmare for me. I hated it. I always chose the essay over the speech, whenever I could, but that wasn’t always an option. Sweating hands, sick to my stomach. All of that.

Then I challenged myself to get better about speaking later in life by teaching and teaching yoga and teaching dance. I taught dance for a very long time to children and adults. Bobbi says, “That’s because that was something you’re passionate about.” That seems to be that common ground that you can find as an introvert is that if you’re passionate about something and you really want to express yourself and share that, then you have more courage to get after it.

[00:32:14] RR: Absolutely. You will find a way. I know. It goes like that. I really do believe in that. It will always find its way to you and you’ll always find a way to express it. It’s just sooner or later, it will be there.

[00:32:31] BS: Do you bring some of those elements of playfulness into your presentations? Because I know you talked about how important that was for you and how you like to have a good time.

[00:32:47] RR: Well, I do. That also helps me believe in what I’m saying even more, or feel good about the presentation, or the speech that I’m giving. I like to bring examples that for instance, that are real-life examples, that have a ton of fun in them. I think they – not necessarily because they’re funny in themselves, but also because people will resonate with situations, with real-life situations more than if you come up with some academic example that a few people resonate with.

I also like to do a lot of improv exercises in my workshops too, which surprises people a lot, and then they get the gist of it, and then they have so much fun with that. For instance, for the presentation skills, or public speaking, we do a lot of breathing and diction exercises, so that people can understand how they can warm up their speaking muscles before they have an important presentation or meeting.

Also, in courses like assertiveness, or feedback, we do a lot of improv, or listening, or checking assumptions. There’s a lot of improv exercises that I love to incorporate in there. Because that’s when people really get it. They remember that moment when they had fun during that workshop. That moment stays with them as a learning experience. They will apply it in their real life because they will remember it better. It will make more sense to them when they look at how they can apply that in real life because they had a good time when they were practicing.

[00:34:58] BS: Yeah. Way more memorable, when you have the time, I think, versus doing something that is a complete snooze. I mean, I can’t even pay attention if I’m bored, or if I’m not connecting with a teacher or speaker. I love that you do that improv. I’m a big fan of that. I took some acting when I was younger, of course, accompanied, the dancing, helping you really be able to think on your feet, if necessary, on the stage is so important and useful in real life. All of that sounds good to me. I think it’s great that you lighten things up a bit and it sounds you have a much more engaged audience because of that style.

[00:35:37] RR: Well, I sure hope so. I mean, they do say that. I hope that they don’t say just for the sake of me hearing it.

[00:35:50] BS: Roxana, from your TEDx talk, let’s discuss how our personal skills are just like muscles and how this relates to dealing with change.

[00:36:01] RR: Well, to me, everything has to do with change, because pretty much, change is the constant. Now even more so. There’s no way we can escape that. To me, that’s what I love to call our skills. I love to call them skills muscles because they are pretty similar to our body muscles. You don’t go and think about it. We don’t go to the gym, or well, okay, not anymore now, because they’re closed.

We don’t do fitness exercises, or workouts once or twice a year and expect that we’re fit and in good shape. Because we know it doesn’t work like that with the body muscles. We need to train them regularly, so that we can actually see the results and also, the benefits of training those muscles because we’re going to see that we’re in a better shape, that we’re fit, we like how we look and all sorts of things. We feel healthier and happier.

It’s the same thing with our skills muscles. Some of them are going to be strong muscles. It’s those skills that we’re using over and over again. It’s just so natural for us to use them because we’ve always done that and it’s easy. What we were saying at the beginning of the show, it’s easy. It’s something that comes easy to me. I’m used to that. Well, believe it or not, those muscles, even if they’re strong, you can still train them and build more of that, because they’re going to help you in your journey. Because again, we’re on a journey here. I do believe we’re on a learning and transformational journey from one day to the next.

We’re never the same person. The person I was yesterday is not here anymore, because I’m a different person now. Because there’s things that I found out from yesterday until today that might have changed my way of thinking and my way of doing things. That’s one thing, to look about your strong skills muscles and still train them. What are they? What are you good at, really good at that you’re so good at it, that you might be taking it for granted?

Also, think about really taking that skill to the next level. Because there’s always a next level. Then, there are those skills muscles that I call dormant skills muscles because we haven’t used them too much. It’s like again, think about the body muscles, right? Some of them we use more of and some of them, I don’t know. Let’s give an example. Abdominal muscles. Some of those exercises, if you haven’t done them for a long time, when you start doing them, your abdominal muscles will hurt. It’s going to be pretty painful when you start doing that.

It’s the same thing with the skills muscles. Some of them are there. We do have that muscle, but we haven’t used it. Whenever we have to use it, it’s painful, because we’re not used to that. Working on those dormant skills muscles is what helps us get them in a better shape because then, they will support the strong skills muscles and there’s going to be so much more that we can do. For me, to give you an example of my dormant skills muscles, it had a lot and it still has a lot to do with numbers and figuring out. As an entrepreneur, I really have to understand how the numbers in my business work. Because otherwise, I don’t have a business, I have a hobby.

I had to train that muscle. Don’t get me wrong, it’s still not in perfect shape. It’s not even in great shape, but it’s in a better shape than it used to be before I started to use it more and more. There’s a lot of control that we actually have on what we can do about our skills muscles, about how we can train them, how we can develop them to the next level so that they can step in and help us in different kinds of situations. Especially now, we are going to use them one way or another to deal with change, because every day is a different change.

That is going to be, for instance, being flexible and adaptable, that’s going to be a skill muscle that we can work more on because we’re going to need a lot of fat to be able to cope with all sorts of changes that are coming towards us.

[00:41:08] BS: Roxana, you are speaking my language, I am really enjoying the idea of relating in the body’s muscles and mind muscles, the brain muscle and thinking about – I was just thinking about a lot of bodybuilders, or especially men will overwork their upper body muscles and then neglect working out their lower body. Women will also focus on different areas of the body. They want to have a nice ass, or whatever. They don’t want to work out their arms, because they don’t want to seem too muscular up top.

It’s just an interesting idea to think about that. We think about that physically, especially people who work out. Then to think about that with brain and personal skills as well, it’s a really interesting concept. Thanks for sharing that. I think that’s good stuff.

[00:42:02] RR: Yeah. It is because it’s more practical. It takes it out of the again, it takes it out of the academic context of learning. It takes it to the everyday learning that we can do. For instance, one of the reasons I started my own podcast was because I wanted to develop my listening skills and my questioning skills as well. I knew that was going to help me because there’s no way.

[00:42:29] BS: Yeah. You can have a podcast about those, like with me, starting a podcast was to work on my speaking skills. Whereas I find with asking questions, and I’m decent at listening, but another thing that I’m working on as well.

[00:42:43] RR: Yeah. See, just know what you want to work on, then you will focus on that. It’s interesting because for you a podcast is exercising your public speaking skills muscles. For me, it’s listening and asking questions. I mean, the focus can be different, but the practice is the same. It’s really easy. We can embed this kind of learning in our lives. That’s what I’m saying.

[00:43:10] BS: Absolutely. As we wrap up here, Roxana, I’d love to know if there was a time you came close to quitting, and what it took for you not to give up?

[00:43:23] RR: So many times. Not just one. I mean, yeah. Especially for me, I’m starting my own business after more than 15 years as an employee. That was quite a change. It was also a change not just in what I was doing and not necessarily what I was doing, but how I was doing it and also, the mindset that I was carrying with me. Obviously, a lot of times that I wanted to quit and I was thinking, “What am I doing this for? This is never going to work. See, I’m putting all of this work and effort and struggle and everything and I’m not seeing the results. I’m not getting the stuff that I want to get.”

First of all, what helped me not give up at that point, or those points was always somebody my family, if not the whole family around me. Either my daughter, or my husband, or my son, they would come like, “Give it time. No, you’re good. You’re on your way. You’re upset now. You’ll be better tomorrow.” Something like that. Now that I think about it, it was if I was again, thinking about the high-performing athletes. It was as if I was that athlete and I would have all of these coaches and doctors and nutritionists and all of the team around me telling me, “Hey, no, no, no. Keep going. Keep practicing. Keep training and you’ll get there.”

That was absolutely for me, that was essential, knowing that I have their support and they know what I’m doing and where I want to go and that they were there with me. Then, all it took, it was just trying something different, a lot of trial and error, and looking at what I tried. If it didn’t work, try something different. Going back to what fuels me and my nerdiness around learning, it was that, because learning, essentially, is trial and error. Always going back to that and thinking, looking at what I’ve done and what I can do differently next time to get the result that I want, or to get closer to the result that I want.

[00:45:48] BS: Thank you, Roxana. Can you let the listeners know how they can stay in touch and find more info?

[00:45:55] RR: Oh, it’s easy. I’m pretty much everywhere. If you look me up on social media, Roxana Radulescu, I will be there. Definitely, my website. It’s personalskillscoach.com. I have all of the social media handles there, the YouTube channel, the podcast, and everything else.

[00:46:15] BS: I am happy to drop those links in the show notes, so the listeners can just head right over there to access those. Roxana, thank you so much. What a lovely conversation with you today. I appreciate you being on the show.

[00:46:31] RR: Oh, it was great talking to you, Britt. I mean, wow. For me, it filled me with enthusiasm again. I’m not just saying that, because that’s the name of your show. This is absolutely how I feel right now.

[00:46:50] BS: Music to my ears. Thank you, Roxana.

[00:46:53] RR: Thank you, Britt.

[END OF INTERVIEW]

[00:46:57] BS: Hope you enjoyed hanging out with me and Roxana today. In case this interests you at all. I was a guest on Roxana’s podcast, All Personal. We got into my story about discovering unique skills and how these skills got me to where I am today. To listen, you can find All Personal on the usual podcast apps. I will also link to All Personal in the show notes and drop a link in the episode description for you.

As always, thanks for listening. Until next time.

[END]

A podcast where creators, teachers, and explorers inspire you to follow your greatest passion.

Get the latest episodes delivered straight to your inbox

By entering your email address and clicking “subscribe” you agree to our privacy policy.